“7 million” number yet more propaganda: RAND Corporation study suggest barely 858,000 previously uninsured Americans have enrolled and paid premiums

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That’s fewer than 1 in 300 Americans.

But the president is touting 7 million signups. What gives?

It’s called spin, propaganda, BS.

Basically what happened is people got kicked off of their policies and then had to buy new policies which now must be sold through Obamacare exchanges. Very few new people were covered.

Another fail in a long list of Obamacare failures. Funny the White House released the numbers on April Fools Day.

(From The Daily Mail)

The unpublished RAND study – only the Los Angeles Times has seen it – found that just 23 per cent of new enrollees had no insurance before signing up.

And of those newly insured Americans, just 53 per cent have paid their first month’s premiums.

If those numbers hold, the actual net gain of paid policies among Americans who lacked medical insurance in the pre-Obamacare days would be just 858,298.

Click here for the article.

ChristopherMPunches 5pts

Uh.  Unreferenced, secret studies?  This is bad journalism.  I hate the ACA but this is just stupid.

Robert Craig
Robert Craig 5pts

The rand corporation implements all the evilness against the people.

James Christopher
James Christopher 5pts

John Zimmermann: "How about there are WMD in IRAQ..." So... "RAND study shows ACA participation is lower than reported." Johnny Z: "Yeah? Well, 'Bush lied, people died!' Checkmate!" Progressive logic...

llanik 5pts

Well it works for us. Couldn't afford insurance. Now insured with a premium we can afford. Was it a hassle? Yes. Worth the hassle? Yes

Gary Reardon
Gary Reardon 5pts

How many of those were previously insured but were canceled due to rule changes?

Rich Wyzykowski
Rich Wyzykowski 5pts

You Cons are such a bunch of Whining losers, it's the law and 7 million Americans are the better for it!

Jeff Raiter
Jeff Raiter 5pts

you are an idiot too. the old plan was set up to BANKRUPT anyone that got seriously ill. This just shows that you are still listening to the KOCH SUCKING brothers and drinking their brainwashing tea. The only thing that would make the ACA better is to make it a single payer system. everyones covered. small co-pays and everyone pays for it through a small tax like MEDICARE.

David Siegel
David Siegel 5pts

Cary Ray how do you keep your brains from falling out of your corn hole? I know by keeping your head planted in it!

James May Ors
James May Ors 5pts

"and paid premiums" if they just signed up this month, they wouldn't have paid premiums yet. This "study" is equal parts bullshit to the presidents claims, just with a different agenda

Patrick Garner
Patrick Garner 5pts

Lmfao, the Republican strategy heading into elections is to deny reality and hope for the best.

Mercedes Burtle
Mercedes Burtle 5pts

You radical idiots just refuse to accept factsd. All your rhetoric is pure lies.

Sandy Davis
Sandy Davis 5pts

Obummer's gang is still cooking the books trying to BS the Sheeple he's still their hero..NOT!!!

GH Burgess
GH Burgess 5pts

For 6 months they swore that they knew NO numbers & now they dream up 7.1 million??? Really?? Who believes them

Joseph Wilson
Joseph Wilson 5pts

From some of the stories I have seen your considered signing up if you get into the web site and are able to navigate it . Another is they don't tell you is there are thousands of illegals signed up for Obamacare as noted from the state of Oregon and I wonder how many that California has let slip into the system or of the other states that have had people sign up through .

Rick Toledo
Rick Toledo 5pts

7 million was what they wanted...once...and 7 million is what they got. Why bother with the facts. And yes, I believe RAND Corporation, I do not believe Obama and his pack of liars.

Bill Corsover
Bill Corsover 5pts

This is a long time highly respected "Think Tank"/Consulting Firm!

Paul Barnes
Paul Barnes 5pts

And this is just the beginning of more lies that's all he knows how to do

Anthony Farmer
Anthony Farmer 5pts

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Aubrey Collins
Aubrey Collins 5pts

I already new it. Because President Obama said it, it must be a lie.

Ryan Rebecca Schneider
Ryan Rebecca Schneider 5pts

Results of a RAND Corporation study suggest that barely 858,000 previously uninsured Americans – nowhere near 7.1 million, as claimed by Obama – had paid for new policies and joined the ranks of the insured by the Monday night deadline.

Eric S. Harris
Eric S. Harris 5pts

Rob McD: Nice try, changing the subject. So, does that mean you agree BHO was lying, since you moved on to a different topic? I would assume so, but I'd like to hear from you.

Eric S. Harris
Eric S. Harris 5pts

They're actual numbers. They're not like a "million gazillion" or a bazillion or eleventeen. They just don't have anything to do with what they're being used for, here.

Steve Andrews
Steve Andrews 5pts

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Craig Bernard
Craig Bernard 5pts

They had to have 7 million but threw in another hundred thousand for effect! Still all a lie! Six million lost their insurance first. So in effect they would have to have 13 million to get 7 million newly insured and that certainly didn't happen! This is all made up lies!

George Parigian Jr.
George Parigian Jr. 5pts

It will be interesting to see if this 7 million number is reflected in the amount of premiums being paid to the major insurance companies. My guess is the 7 million figure was just made up!

George Parigian Jr.
George Parigian Jr. 5pts

I heard that the President delayed in individual mandate until 2016!

Brian Cairns
Brian Cairns 5pts

Who debunked them? Chris Mathews? kool-aid....

Wayne McMichael
Wayne McMichael 5pts

Nope. It is Obamacare that increase insurance cost 300% and the cost of drug only recently went up 500%-1,000% because of Obamacare. Before Obamacare we paid 170%/capita more than Canada. After Obamacare kicks in completely we will be paying about 1,000% more per capita than Canada. It is organized crime, drug cartels.

Ralph Pope
Ralph Pope 5pts

suck it republitards. you lose again and nobody believes your lying bullshit.

Pamela Jeffers
Pamela Jeffers 5pts

How can anything this administration says,reports,claims or whatever be taken as truth? They have told outright lies to the American people, the people I might add that gives them their paychecks and it is both parties involved with lying So their statements are Completely without creditbility. Just can trust anything out of their mouths!

Chad Rogers
Chad Rogers 5pts

So you like paying more? losing your Dr? Losing your Medicine? Being told how to live? You might need your hand held and told how to live and be forced to pay a Tax! Go ahead but I will not Comply!

Cary Ray
Cary Ray 5pts

since when, you forgot the dates of this price increase. They have been going up way before the ACA. Why are so many idiots on this thread.

Cary Ray
Cary Ray 5pts

Why are the trolls out in force. What do they have to gain to pick a fight. Get well Constance.

Cary Ray
Cary Ray 5pts

You are one of the low IQ participants. Both things you put in writing have nothing to do with each other. MFG

Cary Ray
Cary Ray 5pts

I see you have been very mis informed. We live in a country where profit is the bottom line, so the compromise was to mandate it, Republicans input. This way insurance companies would play along. Anyone with a job that gives healthcare as a perk doesn't need to sign up, this goes for government employees. They are not exempt from being insured, which is one of the lies from Fox News. It should be single payer, it was on the table but again republicans wouldn't have it.

ChristopherMPunches 5pts

Rock on.  7 out of 319 million is about 2%, that other 98% that were detrimentally affected by it didn't deserve to be able to pay their bills so well anyway.  Speaking of that, I'm a little short on cash this month, if you've got all your essentials bought, why don't you float a couple hundred bucks my way, I need it more than you.