I interviewed Steve Bannon a couple years ago on a panel and he said the same thing then.
Indeed it is a fight. The old guard isn’t just going to lay down and acquiesce. It will fight tooth and nail. The “administrative state” will scrap, and scrape, and get down in the mud, and wail and moan and bite and tear. The crony capital enjoys an elevated status. Its denizens will never just relinquish the trappings of big government.* Never.